tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6648409483330236099.post1314412164011914797..comments2024-03-27T21:39:27.170-07:00Comments on The Adventures of Notorious Ph.D., Girl Scholar: Deadlines and the Job SearchNotorious Ph.D.http://www.blogger.com/profile/08700875559325201086noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6648409483330236099.post-50494772267934895542023-01-12T21:35:10.519-08:002023-01-12T21:35:10.519-08:00Thanks for this amazing post. Thanks for this amazing post. Bahawalpur Jobshttps://bahawalpurjobs.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6648409483330236099.post-50757773897361546982019-02-27T04:54:26.762-08:002019-02-27T04:54:26.762-08:00deadlines in the jobs and posts are most important...deadlines in the jobs and posts are most important because the lapse of the deadline is the actual node from the owners. 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The frequent items have been identified for the offered items for the groups for the future prospects in life.<br />mikonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00020457880484119572noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6648409483330236099.post-71067931888991221762013-10-11T07:57:11.048-07:002013-10-11T07:57:11.048-07:00Although more and more schools are (thankfully) mo...Although more and more schools are (thankfully) moving to electronic applications, I want to reiterate my appreciation departments stating (and using) postmark deadlines for mailed applications.<br /><br />Also, I wish more departments were like Dr. Crazy's and only asked for a letter and CV on the first round. It's expensive to send letters (via Interfolio) and if they're not absolutely necessary to cull the pool, please don't require them (a list of references seems perfectly reasonable). Ditto on not needing an arbitrary paged writing sample, extensive teaching documentation, transcripts, and whatnot (all of which I have but take money or time to customize for every school, especially variously paged "chapters.")Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6648409483330236099.post-10997593041426174012013-10-09T06:15:04.074-07:002013-10-09T06:15:04.074-07:00I wish more departments did this! It's really ...I wish more departments did this! It's really unfair to ask for more for the first round when sending those letters costs money and all the tailored supplemental materials take so much time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6648409483330236099.post-26035968281058468342013-10-08T17:31:07.856-07:002013-10-08T17:31:07.856-07:00For what it's worth, we don't ask for lett...For what it's worth, we don't ask for letters until we've made the first cut. All we ask for is letter and cv for the first round. If you can't get that in by the deadline, you really can't manage our workload :)Dr. Crazyhttp://reassignedtime.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6648409483330236099.post-15594907389239271062013-10-07T15:25:45.895-07:002013-10-07T15:25:45.895-07:00Our committees start reviewing completed applicati...Our committees start reviewing completed applications when they are complete, even if the deadline has not passed. For the committees I have been on, there seems to be no advantage in submitting early. But the massive number of applications requires that we start reviewing them as they become complete. Rosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06274763224273586922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6648409483330236099.post-47053685187718790302013-10-07T07:38:29.919-07:002013-10-07T07:38:29.919-07:00Notorious, letter writers are also heaving a sigh ...Notorious, letter writers are also heaving a sigh of relief at that. Believe me, there are times I say, phew! I really can take an extra week!Susanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09716705206734059708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6648409483330236099.post-14390425086215268032013-10-06T20:40:28.398-07:002013-10-06T20:40:28.398-07:00I think Susan1's summation is sort of what I&#...I think Susan1's summation is sort of what I'd assumed. A curious faculty member might go in and start browsing the files, but since a lot of files are going to show up in the few days around the deadline itself (including a day or two afterwards, if you're waiting for letters of rec), applicants generally shouldn't have to worry that they need to get their materials in <i>in advance of</i> the deadline. I always tried to do so, but that's owing more to my anxious disposition.<br /><br />And Susan2, your clarification of that phrase helps a lot. My own institution uses something similar, and I always wondered why. It seemed equivalent to saying, "oh, get it in whenever," when in reality a decision will be made at a certain point.<br /><br />And everybody who's said that they won't hold late letters of ref against the candidate: I'm sure that a lot of applicants just breathed a huge sigh of relief.Notorious Ph.D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/08700875559325201086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6648409483330236099.post-78701492987679144812013-10-06T19:25:09.234-07:002013-10-06T19:25:09.234-07:00As with many others, if the application isn't ...As with many others, if the application isn't received by a stated deadline, it's usually inadmissible. Fortunately, we have been moving to searches that are a bit more open. That should never, ever encourage someone to putter and delay, as we don't know that you're lurking out there.<br /><br />If it helps nervous applicants, an incomplete application can still make the cut if the only part wanting is a letter of reference or two. We will hunt down references if at all possible.Janicehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14093558563358431804noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6648409483330236099.post-90720853848846839892013-10-06T19:19:35.218-07:002013-10-06T19:19:35.218-07:00Our HR office told us that we had to say "rev...Our HR office told us that we had to say "review of applications will begin on X date and continue until position is filled," as part of the effort to cultivate as broad a pool of qualified applicants as possible--a different approach to the fair hiring approach than at some other schools, clearly.<br /><br />In practice this meant that everything that came in right around the deadline got considered, and things that came in between the review-begins-date and the first committee meeting got considered. And after that, everything got considered but those applications had to meet a higher bar--were they as good as the ones that had already advanced to whatever next round we were in? And realistically speaking, new apps that came in after we'd requested writing samples really got a "we'll keep your app on file in case we need to revisit the pool" sort of reply.susanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12000470374101306070noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6648409483330236099.post-34582382529636947532013-10-06T18:07:29.294-07:002013-10-06T18:07:29.294-07:00I would aim to ensure receipt of my application by...I would aim to ensure receipt of my application by the deadline. I would not go to extra lengths to turn it in early; in part because I was usually applying for several positions, customizing each letter, and, obviously, prioritizing the earlier deadlines. In the short-term searches my dept. did more recently, we got a lot of applications in close to the deadline, though I don't think we accepted late ones.clio's disciplehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13640279322691564414noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6648409483330236099.post-45568356485543015442013-10-06T17:16:02.182-07:002013-10-06T17:16:02.182-07:00In our searches, if an applicant doesn't have ...In our searches, if an applicant doesn't have his or her materials in on time, we don't consider the application, unless there are extenuating circumstances (e.g., something was lost in the mail, which does happen, especially with international applications).<br /><br />We are more flexible about recommendations, since those are out of the applicant's hands, and we don't want to penalize an applicant for working with a flake. My procedure when running a search is to ask our administrative assistant to notify the applicant that we have not yet received the recommendation from Professor X that was mentioned in the cover letter. (BTW, I do recommend that the last paragraph of the cover letter state what else is enclosed and what should arrive under separate cover, such as recommendations.)<br /><br />I've never started reviewing applications before the deadline. It doesn't seem fair, though if a lot of applications were rolling in, I might do a first review to exclude applicants who are not minimally qualified according to our EOD criteria--i.e. they don't meet the published job description. I chaired a search in medieval Europe with a specialty in History of Christianity once, and had to exclude applicants whose training and research interests were not, in fact, in History of Christianity. But we didn't have so many applications that I needed to start that review early.Brian W. Ogilviehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05045133494402037781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6648409483330236099.post-9309174255838733172013-10-06T16:56:40.053-07:002013-10-06T16:56:40.053-07:00As CC says, electronic applications change things....As CC says, electronic applications change things. Our deadline is drop dead, because the system closes at the deadline. It's run by our Academic Personnel office, we don't control it, unless we decide to extend the deadline. I did learn that if an application has been started, we can add additional material to it after the deadline. And we're forgiving on letters, because our system is such a nightmare.<br /><br />I have been known to begin skimming through applications before they are all in (What's the pool like?) but serious reading only begins after the deadline. <br />Susanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09716705206734059708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6648409483330236099.post-38360117323447415552013-10-06T16:11:40.024-07:002013-10-06T16:11:40.024-07:00This may have changed with the advent of interfoli...This may have changed with the advent of interfolio and similar services, but the part I always hoped was at least a little bit flexible was the receipt of recommendation letters (if required on the first round), since that is out of the candidate's control (at least once (s)he has requested they be sent; of course, there's also the fun of asking people to write or update and get them into whoever is handling the dossier; even in the pre-interfolio days, my grad department provided this service). For the materials I was personally responsible for sending, I always went by B (and several times spent money on overnight mail to assure receipt by a deadline, though I think I did that more often for fellowships than jobs). In the age of electronic application, I'd be inclined to try to upload at least 24 hours before the deadline, in case of outages/server overload, which are the 21st-century equivalent of mailman-eating bears (the latter probably isn't as likely for job applications as for fellowships, unless HR sets a common deadline for a number of searches). Contingent Cassandrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08161652083031423415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6648409483330236099.post-33283141968913716172013-10-06T16:07:07.268-07:002013-10-06T16:07:07.268-07:00In my experience on search committees, we can'...In my experience on search committees, we can't read anything after the deadline. And we're always too overwhelmed to start early. At any rate, I don't think it helps or hurts to be early.Bardiachttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11846065504793800266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6648409483330236099.post-53885474592332486442013-10-06T16:01:15.683-07:002013-10-06T16:01:15.683-07:00Crazy, I wondered about that last part. I assumed ...Crazy, I wondered about that last part. I assumed not (really, when I was sending mine in early it was more a matter of being paranoid about missing the deadline: What if the mailman is attacked by bears?). But I also wondered whether some committees don't start leafing through things as they come. Doubtful, I know.<br /><br />In any case, I should amend what I said about getting stuff in before deadline to read "meeting deadline." That makes much more sense.Notorious Ph.D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/08700875559325201086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6648409483330236099.post-57571434039051821472013-10-06T15:45:33.429-07:002013-10-06T15:45:33.429-07:00Our language clearly states that the date listed i...Our language clearly states that the date listed is a deadline, so any late applications have to get thrown out to ensure fair hiring practices/ no eeoc issues. That said, getting an application in early doesn't make a bit of difference in my experience to how your application is evaluated.Dr. Crazyhttp://reassignedtime.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.com