tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6648409483330236099.post4472230710341204867..comments2024-03-29T00:56:07.277-07:00Comments on The Adventures of Notorious Ph.D., Girl Scholar: On, Wisconsin.Notorious Ph.D.http://www.blogger.com/profile/08700875559325201086noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6648409483330236099.post-6583993860784070442011-02-19T22:21:50.438-08:002011-02-19T22:21:50.438-08:00Interesting story.Interesting story.Stuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11332999137565791777noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6648409483330236099.post-27539675205910495852011-02-18T23:20:08.673-08:002011-02-18T23:20:08.673-08:00Nevermind, H'ann: "Lisa" turns out t...Nevermind, H'ann: "Lisa" turns out to be a spam link. But I'll leave it up for continuity's sake.Notorious Ph.D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/08700875559325201086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6648409483330236099.post-80238732540237952802011-02-18T13:48:42.962-08:002011-02-18T13:48:42.962-08:00Depriving the ledge of a quoroum is something that...Depriving the ledge of a quoroum is something that happens all the time in American political history. If I recall correctly, it's what some Dems did back in the early 2000s when states were redistricting according to the results of the 2000 census.<br /><br />Yeah, I wish everyone who fraudlulently called in sick and took a personal day instead were fired too. I also wish that people who wrote comments on blogs when they're supposed to be working would be fired too. Funny how fungible time is when it's our own!Historiannhttp://historiann.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6648409483330236099.post-81025457081845487212011-02-18T10:25:03.442-08:002011-02-18T10:25:03.442-08:00Lisa,
They (the Senators?) didn't call in sic...Lisa,<br /><br />They (the Senators?) didn't call in sick. They just left.<br /><br />And I don't think that's really the most important issue here.Notorious Ph.D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/08700875559325201086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6648409483330236099.post-25165530948351135862011-02-18T02:42:34.521-08:002011-02-18T02:42:34.521-08:00If they committed fraud against the taxpayers by c...If they committed fraud against the taxpayers by calling in sick and then going out, they should be fired.Lisahttp://www.cadillacpilates.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6648409483330236099.post-22385454985624404712011-02-17T14:37:59.440-08:002011-02-17T14:37:59.440-08:00As another exiled Midwesterner, I'm proud of t...As another exiled Midwesterner, I'm proud of the people of Wisconsin for taking such a courageous role in their democracy. I agree with what Kate G. has said above: this goes much deeper than a debate about unionization, this is about people being respected (and paid) for the the services they provide to their community.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6648409483330236099.post-73489412906701567582011-02-17T10:14:46.218-08:002011-02-17T10:14:46.218-08:00Here's some information about the 2009 legisla...Here's some information about the 2009 legislation that finally allowed Univ of Wisconsin system academic workers to be represented by unions: http://www.aftface.org/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=546<br /><br />(Please note that AFT is the union that's been working to represent UW system folks for some time.)<br /><br />Here's a FAQ from the UW system about the unionization process: <br />http://www.wisconsin.edu/hr/FAQ%20revised%208-25-10.pdf<br /><br />The administration at my school has, so far, been fairly neutral in public talk about union stuff. They've said they don't see unionization as adversarial to the mission of the university.Bardiachttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11846065504793800266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6648409483330236099.post-63197117617066239422011-02-17T10:14:41.418-08:002011-02-17T10:14:41.418-08:00Update: as of noon Wisconsin time (when the vote w...Update: as of noon Wisconsin time (when the vote was scheduled for), the state leg. apparently doesn't have a quorum. Which is a tactic I hadn't thought of.Notorious Ph.D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/08700875559325201086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6648409483330236099.post-69610202359419517732011-02-17T10:11:35.261-08:002011-02-17T10:11:35.261-08:00This is terrific, Notorious. I was so happy to he...This is terrific, Notorious. I was so happy to hear about the enormous (but considerate!) crowds massing in Madison yesterday. Thanks for summing it all up with linky goodness.Historiannhttp://historiann.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6648409483330236099.post-16703364365702188832011-02-17T09:56:49.097-08:002011-02-17T09:56:49.097-08:00Eileen, my guess would be that they *wouldn't*...Eileen, my guess would be that they *wouldn't* be -- what's being talked about here is between the unions (and let's not forget that the UW faculty & TA unions are far from the only ones involved here!) and the state. UW stands to face recruitment problems for grad students, and retention problems for talented junior faculty if this goes through. <br /><br />They will have enough bodies, for sure. But the ones with any choice will now be more likely to go elsewhere -- a nifty town and beautiful scenery can only go so far as an incentive, and if you throw in there the knowledge that most of your public services (schools, hospitals, etc.) will be staffed by underpaid workers... well, that's another disincentive to settle, isn't it?Notorious Ph.D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/08700875559325201086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6648409483330236099.post-39629303923174885772011-02-17T09:49:36.409-08:002011-02-17T09:49:36.409-08:00Good to see these links. I'm another Midweste...Good to see these links. I'm another Midwesterner in exile, and we're not getting much coverage in the traditional media where I am on the east coast. <br /><br />I'd be interested in hearing more about the union issue in the UW system, whether from Kate or Notorious or Bardiac or anyone else. Is university administration on board with this legislation?Eileenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10165692458130517925noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6648409483330236099.post-35581150015199487642011-02-17T09:16:43.477-08:002011-02-17T09:16:43.477-08:00Hi Kate --
I hadn't realized that unionizatio...Hi Kate --<br /><br />I hadn't realized that unionization was not a system-wide thing. Interesting, and there's definitely a story there.Notorious Ph.D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/08700875559325201086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6648409483330236099.post-16435823623276655352011-02-17T08:59:28.492-08:002011-02-17T08:59:28.492-08:00yes, thanks for posting this. As a native Wiscons...yes, thanks for posting this. As a native Wisconsinite, I also laughed at this: "Because even when they're righteously pissed off, Midwesterners are still considerate."life_of_a_foolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05427532203981697246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6648409483330236099.post-57753561163435331452011-02-17T06:35:17.613-08:002011-02-17T06:35:17.613-08:00We only recently (two years ago, perhaps?) gained ...We only recently (two years ago, perhaps?) gained the right to unionize effectively (university faculty, before, we could join a union, but it couldn't represent us in a meaningful way), and only a couple campuses have moved forward (it's a massive effort to form and vote in a union, amazing!). The union issue is big, because it bodes poorly in lots of ways. But other issues are also important.<br /><br />Thanks for the support.Bardiachttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11846065504793800266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6648409483330236099.post-49943001650491085972011-02-17T06:27:31.553-08:002011-02-17T06:27:31.553-08:00Hi,
Thanks so much for the e-press. However, UW sy...Hi,<br />Thanks so much for the e-press. However, UW system faculty are not all represented by unions. Two or three campuses are but there's 20+ campuses! <br />As faculty who have traditionally been paid lower than national averages, we are fighting for our right to survive. It is THAT bad. I'm union (although my campus is not unionized), but I'm kind of bummed that 'union' has hijacked this story. A broader view of the human effects of this bill would help us all so much more.Kate G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/08820122827531236584noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6648409483330236099.post-30448854355433245432011-02-17T06:06:54.653-08:002011-02-17T06:06:54.653-08:00Thanks for the links and for this:
Because even w...Thanks for the links and for this:<br /><br />Because even when they're righteously pissed off, Midwesterners are still considerate.<br /><br />As a Midwesterner in exile, I love the truth of this.Sandy Longhornhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04735445958970512617noreply@blogger.com