tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6648409483330236099.post7886668438092093907..comments2024-03-29T00:56:07.277-07:00Comments on The Adventures of Notorious Ph.D., Girl Scholar: Why I'm Never Lecturing on the Norman Conquest Again (an accidental defense of the lecture format)Notorious Ph.D.http://www.blogger.com/profile/08700875559325201086noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6648409483330236099.post-13685043154230259092019-03-15T00:44:34.191-07:002019-03-15T00:44:34.191-07:00Outside informational activities are fundamental f...Outside informational activities are fundamental for understudies. Everyone understands that extraordinary prosperity is <a href="http://www.statementofpurposegraduateschool.com/writing-a-statement-of-purpose-for-engineering-management/" rel="nofollow">investigate this site</a> for understudies. Outdoors educational activities are so valuable and basic for the understudies. 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Really, the students shouldn't be expecting to get an adequate level of information from a lecture. It's what, 7,000 words, effectively? Even with pictures, that's an article's worth of learning, and pitched at a more basic level. And it's one-time-only, so they won't get most of it anyway. The only point in a lecture as pedagogy is to leave the audience with the mental message, "Now, read on..." and a set of reasons to do so, or else to give them one or two things they never thought before about something they already read about. Given the which, the speaker also needs those reasons.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6648409483330236099.post-51697410611066951002013-02-07T13:17:21.872-08:002013-02-07T13:17:21.872-08:00Notorious, I had a similar realization just recent...Notorious, I had a similar realization just recently when I was putting together a lecture about something that I did know about but that students wouldn't care about and didn't really need to know, when you came right down to it. undinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05589384016564587214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6648409483330236099.post-32079826718197461172013-02-06T22:54:53.612-08:002013-02-06T22:54:53.612-08:00What is really funny here is that lecturing on Mag...What is really funny here is that lecturing on Magna Carta a few years back actually led me to develop a new course on law and society; and Magna Carta is a touchstone because it helps students see the ways a document changes meaning over time - so what is basically a boring feudal peace treaty gets reinterpreted to serve a range of political needs. And that makes a cool history course...Susanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09716705206734059708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6648409483330236099.post-7729525808923266912013-02-06T15:11:48.708-08:002013-02-06T15:11:48.708-08:00I touch on the Normans just enough to explain why ...I touch on the Normans just enough to explain why Sir Gawain and the Green Knight is so different from Beowulf. Otherwise, it's like, How the hell did that happen? And I often mention the Normans at home when my husband complains about how "English" words are spelled. "Blame the c11 Anglo-Saxons who couldn't keep out the Normans," I say.<br /><br />But I get your overall meaning. I had similar epiphanies that led me change my syllabus and throw out the Cavalier Poets and Pope's "Essay on Criticism." Enough!Good Enough Womanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16531793545583712309noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6648409483330236099.post-17049348150874903852013-02-06T14:05:48.465-08:002013-02-06T14:05:48.465-08:00@Historiann
Yes, I got that. Hence the rest of my...@Historiann<br />Yes, I got that. Hence the rest of my comment.<br /><br />Squadrato's followup comment does make a lot of sense though-- in my context the Magna Carta is really important. In her context it means something to a king and a small number of nobles... I bet it doesn't actually have much of an effect on the day to day lives of other folks (but maybe it did, I don't know). So maybe it isn't actually all that important in that context compared to other things that have more real effects on people in that time period.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6648409483330236099.post-69338128501926035932013-02-06T12:28:32.199-08:002013-02-06T12:28:32.199-08:00I, for one, have always been amazed that a bunch o...I, for one, have always been amazed that a bunch of guys named Norman got together and invaded an island and actually won. And William the Bastard. Who can blame him for wanting to change his name? Duh, who wouldn't!<br /><br />I blame Edward the Confessor. And the Bayeux Tapestry, which, way cool. Bardiachttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11846065504793800266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6648409483330236099.post-82770253425355617882013-02-06T10:48:35.073-08:002013-02-06T10:48:35.073-08:00@nicoleandmaggie: Democracy has nothing to do with...@nicoleandmaggie: Democracy has nothing to do with the Middle Ages, though, which is my topic. The Magna Carta is more important to modernists than to medievalists, in some ways. Very influential on the US founding fathers, but arguably the evolving definitions of marriage (the item I paired it with in my list) were of greater relevance to more people, and involve really interesting debates about what combination of factors constitute a binding union (some combination of consent of the partners and sexual consummation being the two factors that are most weighed and debated). <br />More pragmatically, I can give a great lecture on the latter topic, but only an uninspired one on the former. There is enough left out of *all* surveys -- especially on the quarter system, as with my uni -- such that I believe we all can present a pretty balanced syllabus while still playing to our own strengths. THe students learn more, overall, if they sense passion and engagement in their profs.squadratonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6648409483330236099.post-22690102978182960772013-02-06T10:41:02.155-08:002013-02-06T10:41:02.155-08:00But nicoleandmaggie, we're not arguing that th...But nicoleandmaggie, we're not arguing that these things are not important. We are arguing that 1) because these are not our specific fields of research and 2) we have little original thought to contribute to students' understanding of these things, 3) we should lecture about other things and let readings or other media fill the students in on the basic facts of Magna Carta/the U.S. Constitution/the U.S. Civil War/the Norman Conquest.<br /><br />At least that's what I am arguing, and that's what I took to be the sense of Squadrato's and Notorious's points.Historiannhttp://historiann.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6648409483330236099.post-71522115526463609092013-02-06T10:21:09.321-08:002013-02-06T10:21:09.321-08:00But... the Magna Carta is so important! It's ...But... the Magna Carta is so important! It's one of the big cornerstones of democracy! (And there's all those questions about whether or not it was inevitable or just the product of a weak ruler... and what are the longer term effects of giving nobles more power...) I guess that's my specific social science bias showing.<br /><br />And the civil war is important because it introduced union army pensions... also the slavery thing.<br /><br />I admit, I do find lecturing about taxes boring, even though they're important.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6648409483330236099.post-82109445165131943312013-02-06T09:57:51.588-08:002013-02-06T09:57:51.588-08:00What Squadrato said. I feel the same way about th...What Squadrato said. I feel the same way about the U.S. Constitution and the Civil War the way you and she talk about the Magna Carta and the Norman Conquest. They're definitely my least favorite lectures of all time.<br /><br />I lecture in all of my undergrad classes except seminars, although just once a week. I use my lecture in the way Squadrato uses hers--to offer context and (ideally) some fresh interpretive frames that will help students understand their readings better & therefore lead us into good discussions thereof.<br /><br />Have you seen this post at Tenured Radical? http://chronicle.com/blognetwork/tenuredradical/2013/02/when-the-modern-european-history-survey-goes-modern-social-media-in-the-lecture-hall/<br /><br />I thought that the way Prof. Roberts talks about her lectures was interesting and insightful. (And don't miss the comments, in which we are all informed that lectures are just "bullshit.") Historiannhttp://historiann.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6648409483330236099.post-78127408053329393292013-02-06T09:34:22.275-08:002013-02-06T09:34:22.275-08:00Clarification: I do teach some (not all) of the fi...Clarification: I do teach some (not all) of the first terms, in the pairings above -- it's more a question of showing a range of cultural viewpoints and ideals, rather than focussing on the "great personalities and achievements of the Middle Ages" narrative, which is ultimately too teleological and triumphalist for my taste.squadratonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6648409483330236099.post-74400670468960947752013-02-06T09:31:12.850-08:002013-02-06T09:31:12.850-08:00I had that same realization after teaching the Mag...I had that same realization after teaching the Magna Carta once a while back. I was uninspired; in consequence, the students were bored; and nothing I said was original or insightful. I was delivering a lecture on that topic *only* because it was a Very Important Thing. Except that I, personally, have no passion for it, and that was entirely evident in my lecture.<br /><br />I have since moved over towards making most of my surveys about medieval culture and learning to read medieval texts, rather than being about medieval names, dates, kings, and wars. It seemed crazy to me to lecture on the Crusades as wars, but not the idea of pilgrimage, or how to weigh different versions of Urban II's speech; to discuss Magna Carta, but not Marriage Law; Monasticism, but not Inquisition, heresy or dissent movements; Cathedrals, but not saints' relics; Scholasticism, but not geography or T-O Maps; the conflicts of kings and emperors, but not the humoral system as a basic underpinning to physiology and personality.<br /><br /> I now think of my surveys as preparing students to understand medieval <b>culture</b> sufficiently well so that they can move into a more focussed thematic class that includes more names & dates stuff.squadtratonoreply@blogger.com